ssb-audio

[S52OW]

Zanima me katere nastavitve uporabljate pri Markv za audio?...
Nameravam zvezat shure sm-58 preko mix-pulta in se malo poigrat z
"razponi" te postaje. Sicer pa za dx-e vse kar je lepo pade v vodo, ker se prebija čez motnje le treble zvok.

Moje nastvavitve v kombinaciji z desk-mikom md-100
md-100 - thru
09 - on
44 - 3
59 - 6 khz
77 - txssb 200-3100
89 - tusb 000, procusb -0080 (za dx-e)
za lsb velja enako

še sprejem:
50 - 8.2 - 455 (rad imam kontrolo nad razponom)
77 - rxssb 0ff
84 - tuned
skrit menu 91 - pustim kot je v tovarni nastavljeno (občutljivost
predojačevalca)

73 Tilen

[S58F]

Zanima me katere nastavitve uporabljate pri Markv za audio?...
Nameravam zvezat shure sm-58 preko mix-pulta in se malo poigrat z
"razponi" te postaje. Sicer pa za dx-e vse kar je lepo pade v vodo, ker se prebija čez motnje le treble zvok.

Moje nastvavitve v kombinaciji z desk-mikom md-100
md-100 - thru
09 - on
44 - 3
59 - 6 khz
77 - txssb 200-3100
89 - tusb 000, procusb -0080 (za dx-e)
za lsb velja enako

še sprejem:
50 - 8.2 - 455 (rad imam kontrolo nad razponom)
77 - rxssb 0ff
84 - tuned
skrit menu 91 - pustim kot je v tovarni nastavljeno (občutljivost
predojačevalca)

73 Tilen

Hi

To so moje nasatavitve na FT1000MP + Heil HC-5 ...

Če se hočeš igrati z audio nastavitvami ... imaš na internetu ogromno strani kamor predusem "Ameri" opisujejo kako "skipati" tudi po 1500$ za različne Behringer Feedback Destroyer-e DSP 1124,B-1 mic....itd.

Tilen,na http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ssbaudio/ ...tukaj imaš ssb audio group kjer boš zvedel skoraj vse kar boš vprašal...

Svetujem ti pa MD-100 + W2IHY 8 Band EQ (tako boš prišel najbol poceni "skozi" ...če ze hočeš porabiti nekaj 100 $$$ in izbolšati že odlični Yaesu 6kHz audio v bolšega



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Press and hold the [FAST] button while pressing the [ENT] button
-Go to menu 4-4 and set to 3
-Go to menu 5-9 and set to 6.0
-Go to menu 7-7 and set to 100-3100
-Press [Enter] button

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-Press and hold the [FAST] and [LOCK] buttons while turning the radio on
-Press an hold the [FAST] button while pressing the [ENT] button
-Go to menu 9-0 and enter enter the following settings.
NOTE: Use the sub-vfo knob to rotate between sub-menus
R-Lsbcar = (Receive) set to F -0.150 (orig. F 0.050)
T-Lsbcar = (Transmit) set to F -0.320 (orig. F 0.150)
Proc-LSb = (Processor) set to F 0.150 (orig. F 0.000)
r-usbcar = (Receive) set to F -0.150
t-usbcar = (Transmit) set to F -0.320
Proc-uSb = (Processor) set to F 0.150
-Press [ENT] button

V "meniju" 8-9 pa imam TX-USB -0.150
Proc - USB -0.050 (enako LSB)

73

[S52OW]

Živjo Erik. Sem član ssbb-audio foruma.Zanimale so me lokalne izkušnje.
Behringerja bi morala moja Yamaha + Shure mic "premagati", sicer bom pa javil.

Menija 89 in 90 sta vzporedna in je dvojno delo, če spreminjaš v obeh.
Sicer pa tako ali tako, ko "vklopiš" meni 77...se 89 in 90 izklopita in imata funkcijo le pri procesorju.

Tnx za reply...

[S52OW]

Nove nastavitve, nastavljene s pomočjo Usa kolega:

44 - off
59 - 6khz
77 - 100-3100
89 - tusbcar -70

md-100 - high embhasis

[s55z]

Mamma mia... A tud hifi je v radioamaterskih zvezah pomemben ???

To je približno tko, kot če bi mel Ferrarija in bi mimoidoči folk na biciklu spraševal, a so zadost lepe feltne, k mogoče ma pa un sosed, k ma tud Ferrarija mal bol spucane

[S52OW]

Vse je eno veliko veselje

[s56al]

FCC je pred časom (kakšno leto nazaj) kar nekaj USA HAMom poslal uradni opomin, da je njihovo početje, ko so si s predelavo IF filtrov omišljali SSB komunikacijo po super širokih kanalih (10kHz in več), na HAM bandih nelegalno .

LP, Sandi

[S52OW]

Ta igra mora ostat' v mejah ssb-ja. 10khz je moteče do ostalih.
Se strinjam.

[s56a]

Jaz sem končno odkril položaj 2 na stikalu FT-1000MP ročnega mikrofona po številnih pripombah o globoki SSB modulaciji Hi-Fi na 3 kHz glih ne gre. Muzika tudi ne...

[S52OW]

Izključi še 44. meni, ali pa limitiraj 77. (200-3100).

[S58F]

Jaz sem končno odkril položaj 2 na stikalu FT-1000MP ročnega mikrofona po številnih pripombah o globoki SSB modulaciji Hi-Fi na 3 kHz glih ne gre. Muzika tudi ne...

Marijo,spomnil sem se tvoje izjave na UBA c-testu glede "EDSP" od FT1000MP ..
"če bi bil (TX) EDSP mogoče dokupiti kot dodatno opremo pri MP ga 100% ne`bi dokupil.
Mi mladci smo pa nori na digitalno tehniko ...postali smo kot Ameri....samo da je vse digitalno in da ima full knofov..hahaha..

CU Eric

[s56a]

Digitalna tehnika je najlažja, še posebaj z veliko ničli!

[S52X]

IDBT je edina uporabna zadeva.

[S52OW]

O širini ssb audia...

Maybe this will help spur some activity! I finally got around to providing feedback to the ARRL
proposal. I urge you all to come up with something similar or just modify this one as you see fit
and send it to them (if you haven't already). You can find the entire proposal on the ARRL
website, including the email address to send your comments. Below is what I sent to them:

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Thank you for this progressive proposal which should help carry Amateur Radio into the next
decade. I applaud your efforts to forsee future developments and allow for them in the best way
possible. I specifically appreciate the compromised expansion of the phone bands on the lower HF
"traditional" bands while providing motivation for development of new digital modes.

However, I have two issues with this proposal. While you propose to allow a significant amount of
bandwidth in the upper portion of the 10m band (16 kHz), you propose to allow it in the previously
accepted "AM Window" (29.0 to 29.2 MHz). If relatively wideband digital modes take hold of this
spectrum, you will have essentially shut AM out of that traditional "window". Normally this
wouldn't be a problem, since you have explicitly provided for DSB AM at 9 kHz throughout the phone
subbands. The problem is that many of the users of this window use crystal controlled rigs which
of course makes it difficult to change frequencies without buying more crystals or modifying the
rig to allow use of a VFO. I propose you split the difference and allow 16 kHz above 29.1 MHz.

Additionally, I certainly appreciate the accommodation of 9 kHz AM in all areas of the phone
bands, but I fail to see the reasoning behind limiting SSB phone to only 3 kHz. You have allowed
ISB of 6 kHz which no mainstream rig (or any that I know of) provides a means to use. Why limit 6
kHz access to a method that no Amateur will be able to use without waiting to purchase a new rig
(or highly modifying one)? Furthermore, there are large number of Amateurs using more than 3 kHz
of BW in SSB mode. There is no technical or ethical reason for this to be explicitly disallowed.
There are currently rigs that can be purchased that allow SSB to 4 or even up to 6 kHz wide.
Also, as Amateurs Radio Operators, we are allowed to build and experiment (as stated as one of the
reasons we exist) with our own rigs and this restriction limits that capability. The argument
that SSB voice over 3 kHz is a waste of bandwidth is simply not true, and actually limits the
intelligibility of human speech. The human ear is most sensitive to frequencies above 3 kHz, and
your plan automatically creates a disadvantage due to human physiology. Here is further
justification from the Polycom White Paper on the wireline telephone network:

"This critical role of consonants in speech presents a serious
challenge for the telephone network. The reason for this is that
the energy in consonant sounds is carried predominantly in the
higher frequencies, often beyond the telephone's bandwidth
entirely. While most of the average energy in English speech is
in the vowels, which lie below 3 kHz, the most critical elements
of speech, the consonants, lie above. The difference between "f"
and "s," for example, is found entirely in the frequencies above
3 kHz; indeed, above the 3.3 kHz telephone bandwidth entirely.
Note (Figure 1) how the burst of high-frequency sound that
distinguishes the "s" in "sailing" from the "f" in "failing"
occurs between 4 kHz and 14 kHz. When these frequencies are
removed, no cue remains as to what has been said." [1]

The reason we exist is to provide communications in time of need. Why create automatic
limitations on our ability to do so? As can be seen by a complete read of the Polycom document,
the de-facto standard of 300 Hz to 3 kHz used by the wireline telephone network is severely flawed
technology implemented for reasons no longer valid. This limitation is unnecessary and ends up
hurting Amateur Radio in the long run. You propose to make illegal some of the most intelligible,
articulate, and best sounding Amateur Radio stations I have ever heard. And as I said previously,
there is no technical or ethical reason for doing so. At least, I haven't seen any justification
that fits either of those two categories.

I propose you allow 6 kHz to coincide with the 6 kHz ISB that no Amateur that I know of has the
capability of using at this time. This allows 6 kHz digital modes today, in lieu of long delays
waiting for compatible rigs. Another reason for this is that it will provide a more efficient use
of the phone bands since your proposal forces Amateurs wanting better intelligibility and clarity
to AM, taking twice as much spectrum that is needed for the same audio response. If you allow 6
kHz (as Canada does, by the way), you get an even better level of intelligibility while saving 3
kHz of bandwidth that AM with only a 4.5 kHz audio response uses. This solution is clearly
win-win.

You site this change to provide for the future of Amateur Radio, yet it proposes a well-known
flawed limitation that plagues the telephone networks. If this proposal is to be complete, it
should allow for greater levels of communication efficiency, not less. It should allow immediate
widespread access to wider digital modes. I urge you to make your proposal a true springboard to
the future for Amateur Radio by making the changes sited above.

Thank you the opportunity to contribute to our future.

Joe Isabella,
N3JI,
Lewisville, TX