Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S54O » 28 Dec 2010, 14:48

S58T napisal/-a:Boris,

Glede na svoje glasovne značilnosti nastavi menija 25 in 26 (low in high TX cut), po želji pa še uporabi katero od 6 možnosti TX equalizerja v meniju 30.

Sam vedno pri vseh postajah uporabljam ožji pas (300-2400 Hz) in višji nivo procesorja.....

TNX Miro
Tudi modulacija je (zame:-)) sedaj OK.
Potrebno si je vzeti malo časa in občutka.
Procesor 70%
MIC 60%
(ALC zadovoljiv)
Low Cut 100Hz, High Cut 3000Hz
TX EQ mi je najljubši High Bust1, ker imam po naravi bolj nizek glas.
V lokalu pa bolj pohvalijo BassBust1 :-).
Uporabljam Heil HC4 mic, vendar je tudi z originalnim podobno.

73 de Boris S54O
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s58dx » 31 Dec 2010, 09:06

Pozdrav :D ,

včeraj je Sherwood objavil primerjalne podatke za
TS-590S v svoji slavni razpredelnici :wink:

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Srečno in zdravo v 2011 vsem kolegom :D

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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S58T » 07 Jan 2011, 16:39

Končno dobavljivA tudi Kenwoodova ročna duoband postaja z vgrajenim GPS in anteno, TNC, APRS itd...
Pri slovenskem distributerju je cena za prvih 5 kosov promocijska, 480 Eur z DDV.
Tehnični podatki tudi na http://www.elnaprave.si
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/products/comms/

Miro S58T 040 520 888
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s56izw » 08 Jan 2011, 11:22

Sam se bom te dni oločal med nakupom TH7D72 ali pa Yaesu VX8GE. Odločitev ne bo lahka , saj je cena skoraj identična. Pri Yaesu... mi je všeč mehanska zasnova , saj je postajca vodoodporna. TH7... mi ne deluje preveč, čvrsto( veliko hodim v hribe). Obe pa za ta denar ponujajo isto. Morda bi mi kakšno mnenje prišlo prav.
Ko sem se pred mesecem odločal med TS-590 ter FT-2000 je zmagala druga. Zato 0:1 za Yaesuta:)

Lep p.
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s56kz » 09 Jan 2011, 10:17

Hi!

Nekaj informacij lahko preberete na yahoo group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kenwood_TH-D72/
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S58T » 10 Jan 2011, 14:01

Nekaj tehničnih značilnostiTH-D72E:

Glavne značilnosti:
- Dvo band ročna prenosna radijska postaja
- 1000 spominskih kanalov, 8 znakovno poimenovanje spominov
- 5 Watt RF Izhodna moč , Li-Ion baterija
- Vgrajen SiRF Star III GPS z 5000 točkovno logger funkcijo
- Joystick (smernik) + tipkovnica
- Vgrajen 1200/9600 baud TNC
- Mini-USB port
- SkyCommand II System
- 8.33 kHz korak pri AM AVIO sprejemu
- Tovarniško razširjen RX 118-174MHz in 320-524MHz

V kompletu z TH-D72E se nahaja:

Baterija Da, Li-Ion
Polnilec Da, z UK (3-polni) in EU (2-polni) omrežnima kabloma
Antena Da, gibka Dual-band, SMA
Nosilec za pas Da
Vijaki Da
USB kabel Da, USB-A /USB-Mini konektor
Navodila Da, osnovni priročnik za delo in Poglobljeno navodilo na CD-romu


Specifikacije:
Visoka izhodna moč 5 W
Nižja izhodna moč (cca) 0.5 W
Extra nizka izh. moč 0.05 W
Področje frekvenc - RX - VHF 118 - 174 MHz
Področje frekvenc - RX - UHF 320 - 524 MHz
Področje frekvenc TX - VHF Kanali med 136 - 174 MHz
Področje frekvenc - TX - UHF Kanali med 430 - 440 MHz
13.8 V DC-Vhod Da
Antena 50 Ohm Da
Dimenzije Š x V x G brez projekcij 58 x 121.3 x 33.2 mm
Mikrofonska impedanca 2 kOhm
Delovno temp. območje -20 °C do +60 °C
Zunaje napajanje DC 11.73 to 15.87 V
Sprejemnik dvojni super Da
Prva MF RX band A 49.95 MHz
Druga MF RX band A 450 kHz
Prva RX MF band B 45.05 MHz
Druga MF RX band B 455 kHz
Občutljivost sprejemnika Pri 12 dB SINAD:-
Band A - Pod 0.18 mikrovoltov
Band B - Pod 0.22 mikrovoltov
RX zapora šuma-Sq Pod 0.13 µV
TX največja deviacija FM Manj kot ± 5 kHz
Oddajno popačenje Manj kot 3% (300 Hz to 3 kHz)
TX spuriji Manj kot -60 dB
Teža 370 gr (z baterijo, anteno in nosilcem za pas)

Splošne radioamaterske značilnosti:

1750 Hz TonBurst Da
8.33KHz korak na Avio bandu Da
AlfanumerilniLCD Zaslon Da
Antenski konektor SMA
APRS funkcija (vgrajen TNC) Da
Avtomatski izklop Da
Avtomatski zamik rpt (VHF) Da
Vgrajen Packet TNC 1200/9600 bps Da
Možnost kanalnega prikaza Da
Ura Da, čas/datum funkcija
CTCSS Encoder/Decoder Da, izbira 42 subtonov
DCS Encoder/Decoder Da, izbira 104 digitalnih kod
Direktni vpis frekvence Da
DTMF spominski kanali Da, 10 kanalov, 16 številk
Dual sprejem Da, VHFxUHF, VHFxVHF or UHFxUHF
Duplex način Da
DX Cluster Monitor po vgrajenem TNC Da
DX Cluster Tune funkcija Da, izhod "Tune" lahko krmili
Kenwood HF postajo
ECHOLINK Memory Dialer Channels Da
Firmware nadgradnja po USB Portu Da
Tipkovnica spredaj Da
Full Dual-band delo: V+V/V+U/U+U Da
GPS Port (NMEA 0183) Da
Visoko kvaliteten zvočnik Da, vgrajen v sprednji plošči
Opozorilni toni vklop/izklop Da
Zaklepanje Da
Izklop neuporabljanega banda (A + Band) Da, A ali B
Izločitev spominskih kanalov Da
Spominski kanali z Alpha-tagging 1000 spominskih kanalov
Ime spominskega kanala Da
Memory Shift Funkcija Da
Sistem osebnega menija Da
Monitor Funkcija Da
MR-zamik Da
Multiple Scan funkcije Da
Smerniška tipka Da
Packet delo- AX25in KISS Mode Da
PC programiranje spominov Da
PC kontrolni program Da, opcijski
Sporočilo ob vklopu Da
Geslo ob vklopu Da
Programabilne funk. tipke Da
Reverzna kontrola repetitor Da
Izbira rpt zamika Da
Ločena SQ za A in B področji Da
Istočasni sprejem 2frekvenc Da
Sky Command 2 Da, za kontrolo Kenwood HF radijske postaje
Time-Out Timer Da
USB Port Da, vgrajen Mini-USB Port
Izbira široke/ozke deviacije Da


APRS Funkcije:

Alarm za določen klicni znak Da
APRS Data Output Da, za zunanjo GPS enoto kot AvMap Geosat 5 APRS
Auto Message odgovor Da
Decay Algoritem Da
Digipeater Funkcija Da
Sporočila v spominu Da, 100 sporočil
New-N Paradigma Da
Packet Data izhod Da, na PC čez USB Port
Proportional Pathing Da
QSY Funkcija Da
Received Packet Data Pop-ups Da
Relay Path Display Da
SmartBeaconing ™ Da
State/Section /Region Pathing Da
Seznam postaj v spominu Da, do 100 postaj, z možnostjo filtrov
Uporabniški izrazi Da
Vidna sporočila Da
Funkcije za vremensko postajo Da, lahko se priključi na primerno Peet Bros. Ltd and Davis Ltd vremensko postajo za sprejem, oddajo in prikaz različnih vremenskih parametrov

Več na www.elnaprave.si
in na vseh Kenwood internetnih straneh

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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s58dx » 16 Jan 2011, 18:35

Pozdrav Kenwoodjerji :D ,

na spodnjem linku, je test Kenwooda TS-590S v RADCOMU, narejen z strani Petera Harta G3SJX:
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/We ... S-590S.pdf

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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S54O » 31 Jan 2011, 22:14

Za TS590S je prišel "trenutek resnice" = oddelan CQ160CW.
Naredila sva 1000 + 210 zvez (s54o+s52w in s50bcc)
Antena je dipol @3-12m.
V nobenem trenutku sprejemnik ni počepnil ali slišal "duhove".
Da je bil band zabasan, pa ne rabim pisat :-)

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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s58dx » 01 Feb 2011, 15:12

Pozdrav :D ,

Boris hvala za koristne info's iz prve roke! 8)

Vsi ki imate radi DIGI/RTTY in CT/Logger programe sem danes zasledil koristno informacijo o
uporabi TS-590S za digi mode preko USB porta brez modema!
=======================================================Hi

I have used Logger32 with TS-590 FSK with no problem.

If you want to use MMVARI engine then Logger32 setting should be
1)FSK8250 for RTTY keying
2)PTT by serial port or PTT by radio command for PTT selection.

If you want to use MMTTY engine then MMTTY setting should be
1)CON-TxD for TX port
2)EXTFSK for PTT & FSK port

and Logger32 setting should be

1)EXTFSK for RTTY Keying
2)PTT by serial port or PTT by radio command for PTT selection.

I have not used AFSK. I believe that works OK as well.


73
aki ja1nlx
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/ja1nlx/ham/




----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: KenwoodTS-590@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: [KenwoodTS-590] Re: TS590 + RTTY using USB Cable



Why not using the Data VOX (menu 69, 70, 71)?

73, Peter - HB9PJT

--- In KenwoodTS-590@yahoogroups.com, Filipe Lopes <ct1ilt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I am also using the USB Cable and Logger32 with MMTTY and MMVARI.
>
> Are you also using MMTTY for RTTY? How do you set it to TX?
>
> I dont seem to find the issue on my side, I get perfect RX but no TX...
>
> Filipe CT1ILT
>
>
> 2011/1/31 Daniel <schaeffler@...>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Filipe, CT1ILT
> >
> > I've connected just an USB cable TS-590 <-> Computer (MacMini with Bootcamp
> > and WIN7, 32 Bit).
> >
> > I'm using Logger32 and the integrated sound card appl. does RX and TX very
> > well.
> >
> > If I TX I can hear a "control sidetone" in my headphone. But where can I
> > switch in to OFF?
> >
> > Daniel, HB9DDS
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards/Cumprimentos,
> Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K
> http://www.rep.pt/ct1ilt
>






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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s57k » 02 Feb 2011, 14:23

Pozdravljeni ljubitelji TS 590,

V cq160m pri S51V smo zadnjo noč postavili TS 590 ob bok FT1000MV field in K3. Postavitev nam je omogočala direktno primerjavo vseh treh postaj; sprejemniki se med sabo (na uho!) nič kaj ne razlikujejo, niti nismo imeli občutka, da bi TS590 kaj "počepnil" napram ostalima dvema oz. da bi mu prepoln band močnih signalov povzročal probleme. Tudi naš oddajni signal (S9+60) ga ni zmedel,hi. Skratka odličen sprejemnik ( moje videnje).
Druga zgodba je oddajnik; signal na oddajni frekvenci je čist, vendar pa v primerjavi s FT1000MV in K3 dvigne šum po celem bandu. Šum sicer ni močan, vendar je opazen. Za primerjavo: K3 in FT1000MV (NB in cliks modificiran) popoldne na praznem bandu nista povzročala šuma.
Če bi se moral odločati, kateri je zmagovalec v razmerju kvaliteta/cena, bi imel težko delo.

Odličen radio!

Lep pozdrav,

Sandi S52OP
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s58dx » 12 Feb 2011, 18:02

Pozdrav :D ,

všeč mi je tale review ne zato ker hvali Kenwood TS-590S ampak zato ker je
v primerjavo porinil kar nekaj relevantnih dxcontest trcvx! :o
Prispevek je dolg :( , ma vsi ki stavite na dober rcvr pazljivo preberite.
Prijetno branje,

Nermin S58DX 8)

Excellent All rounder Time owned: 3 to 6 months
Executive Summary. Its the best all round performance orientated HF radio available on the market at an affordable price.


First let me say that I approach reviews from 2 angles. The first angle is the ultimate raw performance and the 2nd is how much fun the radio is to use.

This second angle of how you like the radios ergonomics and its general appeal. The other important aspect of how well laid out the controls are, are just as important as the ultimate receiver performance. In a general purpose station radio you should ideally have all these aspects correct. In this regard the TS590S is a winner.

I own many radios. The 3 that are on my main operating desk are the K3, FT5000 and IC7700. Sold recently were the Orion2 and Icom7800.

The performance angle.

There is doubt that Kenwood has delivered a wonderful high performance radio. On the bands where contest receiver performance counts it gets a 5/5. I could not detect a single of case IMD dynamic range problems on a band like 40 meters using a big 3 element Yagi. Yet on the IC7700 these problems could be detected and the receiver
was bordering on collapsing. The TS590s has excellent filters and the roofing filters are better than the Icom 7700(Doooh) and so close to the K3 that it hardly matters. The K3's narrow roofing filters of 1.8khz and lower are impressive. For most operators the difference would not matter. For economy of performance the TS590S is a real winner and a bargain. You would be hard pressed to justify a radio like a IC7700 and IC7800 which basically only has 200 watts and a bandscope with a less than impressive receiver performance when compared to the TS590s operating in the down conversion mode. Up conversion radios will never beat down conversion radios any time soon!

The TS590S and FT5000.

The TS590S has better image rejection performance than the FT5000 and sounds just as good. There was not a single time on the air where my new FT5000 could embarrass the TS590S. They both sound just as good.

The FT5000 is a radio with a superb transmitter that has the best processed audio that I have encountered. The transmitter with its 200 watt PA has world class PA performance with the best available TX IMD performance. If you want to run a clean signal the YAesu FT5000 is a winner in this area of TX IMD.

The TS590S in the 160meter CW contest was a winner and I had no trouble switching from the FT5000 and the TS590S running stations. Never once did I lament that I wished that the TS590S has this or that control or feature. It is a professional radio in a small box that gets the job done. It does have that annoying birdie on 160meters!

The TS590S and the K3.

Well the TS590s has much better ergonomics and construction. It also has a much better sounding receiver than the K3. The K3 has a noisy receiver in comparison to the TS590S. The TS590S also has less INBAND RX IMD so sounds much better and warmer. Ergonomics on the K3 stinks and having dedicated marked band and mode switches makes the
TS590S a real winner. Tuning around the bands or bandhopping was a joy and so easy on the TS590S, something that turns into mental gymnastics with the the K3!

I also found the Kenwood’s noise blankers able to deal with a broader range of typical noise better than the K3. The K3's blankers both analog and digital seem to need a very specific noise signature for them to work. On the most effective settings they always introduce distortion. You can use the TS590S noise blanker on moderate
settings without excessive distortion. I could for example blank an electric fence and leave the blanker engaged on the TS590s without problems. On the K3 strong signals even when lightly set caused distortion.

The K3 does have features that the TS590S does not have and is an incredible bargain for features and performance. The TS590S has better transmitter IMD performance than the K3 however the TS590S does generate ALC splatter. This problem seems to be a design problem in every Japanese radio; even my IC7700 and IC7800 had ALC
overshoot issues. If you run a modern tetrode amplifier like a ACOM2000 do not be surprised if you are told that you are splattering because you probably are. This ALC overshoot so common on many JA causes a lot of splatter with tetrode amps. You need to very carefully monitor the TS590s ALC, no ALC action is better! The K3 despite its poor TX IMD has a properly designed ALC that does not cause splatter problems on TX.


The K3's receiver when compared to the TS590S is very weak in none dynamic range areas. The amount of birdies in the K3 that can be noticed is very high. Birdies on the K3's receiver especially on the high bands and the warc bands are terrible. It’s almost like Elecraft have parked all the birdies on the WARC bands. 12 meters on the K3 is full of birdies. The TS590S has the advantage here because of the up conversion process on the higher bands where ultimate performance hardly matters.

The real surprise for me was this. I have a nearby CB operator who runs illegal power that splatters right into meters with his Class C amplifier. I thought the K3 with its tight bandpass filters would be the winner, NO! The TS590S for whatever reason seems to reject this out of band CB splatter much better. I have no explanation for this. However I am happy. There seems to be something in the K3s receiver that makes it more susceptible to the CB 27 MHz transmissions.

The TS590S has a soft warmer sounding receiver that does not sound so harsh on RX like the K3. The TS590S sounds like the Icom 7700/7800 Radios soft and warm. Don’t know what it is about the K3 that makes its sounds like someone is hack sawing off your right ear while receiving. This is especially so when the bands have static on them.

The TS590S in up conversion is a great general purpose shortwave receiver when tuning around.

TS590S is a winner in terms of raw performance and value for money.

Many hams probably have old legendary Kenwood radios like the TS430S, TS440s and TS450s. Millions of these general purpose radios were sold. If you have these radios and are considering the TS590S, it would be the perfect radio for you. Despite these old Kenwood’s legendary performance and reliability, they are like old antiques compared to a Ferrari. The TS590S is a Ferrari like performing radio that comes at a bargain price. The TS590S is not your grandfather’s radio! So if you want to clean your shack of all the failing rubbish with no parts availability get the TS590S. You cannot buy at this moment such a high performance radio for the price. Heck even the expensive IC7700 and IC7800 have crap receiver performance numbers when you compare it to the TS590S. These two expensive Icoms don’t even have a better transmitter performance their IMD performance is so average and equal to the TS590S and no better! For the price you pay for the Icoms you would expect better performance, yes?

The ergonomics of the TS590S are very good for such a compact radio. The 3 things that ham does when hamming, spin the VFO knob, use the mode switch, work split and use the band switch to change bands. You do this millions of times. If a radio can’t do these basic things well and without thinking you don’t have much of a radio.

The TS590S is a winner in this regard. Its ergonomics are fine and does the basics fine without causing heartburn or needing to pull a manual out. The K3 by comparison is an ergonomic disaster. The tuning on the shortwave bands messes up your ham band tuning, you can’t do band splits on VFOA VFOB. I always like having VFOB on a different band and switching quickly between bands. Cant do this on the K3. You can on all the old great Kenwood radios and most other brands you can do this, not on the K3. The K3 is an
ergonomic mess when tuning and band jumping. Having to cycle through every band or mode is a PITA!!! Yeah sure there are shortcuts on the K3, well I don’t want to use shortcuts I want to use dedicated controls that are clearly labeled on the panel. Same goes for split the TS590S is a winner. The K3 is awful awkward radio to use on
split. Even using an old IC735 you can work split in more efficient manner than the K3. Oh, did I mention proper bandstacking registers, Kenwood worked this out decades ago not other manufacturers!

TS590s is nicely balanced well thought out radio that does not give you heartburn or make you feel like you need a radio with more knobs like you feel when using the K3. The K3 gives me heartburn every time I use it its so frustrating how poorly laid out the front panel is, and how poor the general ergonomics are. This is not to say that the TS590S is the worlds best ergonomic radio, it’s just a whole lot better than the K3. I can drop you in front of a TS590S and you will be using it without using the manual. Try that with a K3!

TS590S winner in general ergonomics!

I use a lot of wire antennas with balanced tuners at a portable holiday location with a small amplifier. I used to use the K3 for this with a huge balanced antenna tuner. If I used my K3 with tuner on the shelf above it bringing the balanced and end fed wires into the tuner the K3 would have a huge spasm and freeze up. I had to constantly pull the power and do a reset. The K3 would also drive the amplifier very badly with RF coming off the feeders. I basically had to stop using open wire antennas and high power with my K3; it was sensitive to RF on TX and lacked RF immunity.

Fast.... Forward...... others radios including the IC7700 and TS590S. Wellll ermmm the Ft5000 was OK; The IC7700 threw a fit and died on 2 occasions. Icom was not sure if it was "RF or Static" and tried blaming me because their radio design was so terrible and sensitive because the radio blew up because of RF indigestion. OMG can you believe that a radio dying because of static and RF!!! OMG hams get rid of your RF it will hurt the radio, static too!! Needless to say the Icoms cost me close to another TS590S in repair bill costs! Anyway the TS590S plugged right in and worked flawlessly. 1kw into the balanced coupler above the radio, full pep, no drive issues and the radios not freaking out.

Well what more can I say and think. WOW I did not need ferrite, call in a RF ground expert or get rid of my antique electric wire aerials, or hear excuses of why a radio cant cope with Rf floating around, AMAZING. Wonder why a TS590S can handle this situation and other radios can’t? I must just hate those other brands eh? Unfortunately not, look inside the K3 and compare it to the construction of the TS590S. Look particular at the shielding around the electronics and look at how the PA is constructed. You ham right? And you know about shielding and bypassing? Why is this missing in such expensive radios that are supposed to be the best? Why cant a Icom IC7700 handle RF and static fields? ask Icom that question. TS590S is winner in not being RF sensitive and well constructed and shielded.

Just to be sure I parked a SGC230 on top of the TS590s plugged in a random bit of wire ran off a short ground current return and tuned on all bands, click, clack buzz prrrr worked perfectly and no rf in the audio, even got a RF bite and the radio did not blow up or go berserk. Cant do this on the K3, and well on the Icom IC7700 I did not want to try this with this expensive radio and blow it up a 3rd time! One repair and shipping bill for a Icom 7700 will make you lock it it up in vault for life with your grandfathers war medals and gold watches!

When I got the second receiver into the K3 the birdies drove me nuts. Elecraft support suggested moving cables a bit here and there to move and try and reduce the level of the birdies, say what! Is RF shielding still a patented process or what? The K3's second receiver causes birdies no wonder it cant handle the RF off open
wire feeders! I am impressed with the TS590S general RF immunity, its well designed.

TS590S Extras features such as Skycommand, REMOTE HF and voice announcement are all enjoyable bonuses.

What I don’t like on the TS590S.

The receiver seems too sensitive to pulses like electric fence noise and every electric device that switches on and off in your house. It causes clicks as it should.

The K3’s feature of allowing the AGC to reject these pulses is great. In fact the K3 is only radio which I don’t have to use a noise blanker on all the time to reject electric fence pulses. The IComs and Yaesu also have this problem. The K3 is winner in this area.

The TS590S has a 12 volt PA with less than spectacular high order TX IMD suppression. Why Kenwood did not use high voltage FETS is beyond me. Such a high performance radio like the TS590S needs a PA with less TX IMD not a CB radio PA like in most rigs. Its 2 tone IMD numbers are better than the K3 however the TS590S ALC overshoot problem causes IMD and splatter. The Japanese manufacturers need to clean up their act in this area and the TS590S is poor in this area which is a shame.

No IF output for a bandscope. These days this is a must, why Kenwood crippled the radio by not providing this is a big question.

TXCO should not be an option these days. If the radio had the TXCO and IF output it would have been a complete radio.

The S-meter is not calibrated and is the usual flickering guess meter worth nothing! K3 is a winner in this area.


The TS590S is a great all round radio that packs performance and features. A lot of thought and features have been put into this radio, this combined with its excellent ergonomics and constructions make it a best buy bargain in ham radios at the moment. Its key attribute is its performance at a bargain price that can’t really
be matched by other brands. I give it 5/5 despite it only deserving a 4/5 because it’s less than impressive TX IMD performance.

The K3 is a perfect comparison with which to compare the TS590S with. If I wanted the ultimate big box radio that delivers K3 performance, I would select the FT5000 Which is my main contesting radio. The TS590S sits on top of the FT5000 and is almost an equal. If Elecraft ever produced a K4 with better ergonomics and front panel I might look at it again as my main station radio. For the moment between the FT5000 and TS590S I have everything that I need without question. I just can’t get into the K3 because of all the issues that I have with its ergonomics. I turn it on now and then to check the performance of other radios. Since I have the TS590S I hardly use my K3! The K3 is a mission specialist radio that you will either love or hate, I mostly hate its ergonomics. It does pack features and performance thats hard too equal. Since the TS590S has come along, the K3 is only a nose in front, you would feel like a happy loser with a TS590S in front of you because they so close.

If Yaesu produced a version of the TS590S that is laid out like a FT950 and had equal or better performance it would be runaway success. I am generally not a fan of small radios. I would like to see Kenwood producing radios like the old TS930S and TS940S. These radios had good receivers, good layout, well designed PA's and built in power supplies. The FT950 is reminder of these radios, but unfortunately the FT950's performance sucks. Anyway more dreams!

TS590S is a small radio performance wonder box that would please the most fastidious HF radio user,,, go get it you wont be disappointed! Thanks Kenwood for a great radio.
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S51V » 12 Feb 2011, 20:08

Nermin zdaj pa le brž v Ken Lab, zaloge so pošle, spisek za novo rundo pa ni kratek.
Se veselim tvojega osebnega reviewa. :D

73 Silvo
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S51SL » 13 Feb 2011, 00:53

Pozdrav.
Ali je kdo opravil test TS 590S + Javornik.
Kenwood je imel svoje čase "umazan" TX. TS 870 je dvigal šum po celem bandu.
Ali je TS590 kaj boljši ?
73
S51SL
Matjaž Kočar
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a S58T » 13 Feb 2011, 09:50

Oceno TH-D72E iz najbolje prodajane britanske radioamaterske revije Practical Wireless si lahko ogledate na http://elnaprave.si/pdf/Th-D72_Review.pdf

Miro S58T
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Re: Novi postaji Kenwood TS-590S in TH7D72

OdgovorNapisal/-a s55m » 13 Feb 2011, 13:36

Nermin, malo mi najedajo takšni "review" na eham's net, kjer človek nima niti toliko "jajc", da bi se podpisal z svojim znakom in imenom.
RFexpert? Ne dvomim, da je FT590S odličen price-preformance radio, a to vseeno ni Ferrari med RTX-i.
Po napisanem lahko samo sodim to, da je bil BIAS pri omenjenem RFexpertu obrnjen maksimalno na Kenwood-ovo stran (kot je recimo pri tebi :) ). Takšni so bili včasih review-i za K2 in podobne primopredajnike, a čas je pokazal svoje.
Danes je očitno vse stvar dobrega marketinga. Meni osebno je všeč, da ljudje norijo za novimi stvarmi, saj se potem ceneje dobijo starejše (velikokrat boljše). Prepričan sem, da je na 160m sprejemnik TS930S, s filtri v obeh MF, boljši od TS590S.
Jasno, na konkretni anteni in v konkretni EU gneči.
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