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Napisal/-a **S52OW** » 21 Mar 2004, 10:47

Dobri strani doma narejenih ojačevalcev naprodaj....
http://www.xforceamps.com/
http://www.davemade.com/mobile.htm

Napisal/-a **S58WW** » 21 Mar 2004, 20:27

SW01 napisal/-a:Dobri strani doma narejenih ojačevalcev naprodaj....
http://www.xforceamps.com/
http://www.davemade.com/mobile.htm

Tilen!

Priporočam ti da prebereš malo pravilnikov in priporočil!
Prepričan sem, da ti moč na svojih transceiverjih vedno "zapreš", da "dajo" samo 4W!? :wink:

http://www.atrp.si/3tel/1tel-4.html#2

Naša zakonodaja je prilagojena ITU in ERC !!!

Recommendation T/R 20-09 (Chester 1990 (ERC))

PR 27 RADIO EQUIPMENT INTENDED TO PROVIDE SHORT RANGE
VOICE RADIOCOMMUNICATION IN THE 27 MHz BAND

Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group T/WG 19 (RR)

Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Telecommunications" Commission:

“The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations,

considering

a) that PR 27 radio equipment, operated on collective frequencies in the 27 MHz band, are available to the public,

b) that it would be desirable for Administrations to have common regulations at their disposal in order to control the use, the type approval, the marking and the free circulation of this equipment,

c) that the technical characteristics and the methods of measurement for this equipment are harmonised and included in a European Telecommunication Standard,

d) that the clear identification of PR 27 radio equipment would facilitate the free circulation of this type of equipment,

recommends

1. that CEPT Administrations allow PR 27 radio equipment complying with the latest ETS (BA) as the "Technical Characteristics and Methods of Measurement for Citizen Band Radio Equipment (PR 27 radio equipment)" to be used for any purpose and by any person, subject to the common administrative conditions specified below,

2. that Administrations adopt rules for authorisation of PR 27 radio equipment in conformity with the conditions set out in Annex I of this Recommendation,

3. that Administrations adopt the rules for free circulation and marking of PR 27 radio equipment in conformity with the conditions set out in Annex II of this Recommendation.”

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Annex I

CONDITIONS FOR THE USE OF PR 27 RADIO EQUIPMENT

1. PR 27 radio equipment is used on a maximum of 40 channels (26.965 to 27.405 MHz) with angle modulation only and a maximum output power of 4 Watts.

2. The use of PR 27 radio equipment either shall be granted by means of a general permission, or shall be subject to the least possible restrictive conditions.

3. A minimum age, determined by the Administrations in accordance with their national regulations, can be required for the operations of PR 27 radio equipment.

4. If an individual licence is required, it shall be granted without regard to the applicant's nationality.

5. PR 27 radio equipment may be used either as a base station, or as a mobile/portable station.

6. PR 27 radio equipment shall not be used either on board aircraft of any kind, or as an aeronautical station.

7. Transmission and reception shall take place on the same channel (single frequency, simplex traffic).

8. PR 27 radio equipment shall not be operated in conjunction with satellites or repeaters.

9. Connection of PR 27 radio equipment to the public switched telecommunications network shall be prohibited.

10. PR 27 radio equipment shall be type approved and bear a type approval mark.

11. With the exception of directional antennas with gain in the horizontal plane, all types of external antennas may be allowed.

12. PR 27 radio equipment type approved before the implementation of this Recommendation and the appropriate ETS may continue to be used under the conditions of the previous CEPT Recommendations.

Annex II

CONDITIONS FOR THE FREE CIRCULATION AND MARKING
OF THE PR 27 RADIO EQUIPMENT COVERED BY THIS RECOMMENDATION

1. Each Administration shall allow the temporary use of PR 27 radio equipment which is authorised by the Administration of the visitor.

2. An Administration shall indicate either by an entry on its licence form or through issuing a general permission that the use of PR 27 radio equipment is authorised during a temporary stay in any country which has accepted this Recommendation.

3. A CEPT Administration shall accept an easily visible and identifiable mark, placed on the PR 27 radio equipment in the following form:

CEPT PR 27 

Pibo S58WW

Napisal/-a **S52OW** » 21 Mar 2004, 20:34

Ne skrbi...
omembe vredni ojačevalci na omenjenih straneh prenesejo normalen inout. Do 100w.

Napisal/-a **S58WW** » 21 Mar 2004, 20:45

Nisi razumel kaj sem ti hotel povedati!

Ti na 27MHz (11m!) lahko delaš samo s 4 (štirimi) W, da o modulacijah ne govorimo....

Taka je pač zakonodaja!

73! Pibo

Napisal/-a **S56SWA** » 21 Mar 2004, 21:01

... in se pogovarjaš s 'sosedom za prvim ovinkom'. K sreči ima Tilen dobro anteno :wink:

73, Andrej

Napisal/-a **S58WW** » 21 Mar 2004, 21:40

S56SWA napisal/-a:... in se pogovarjaš s 'sosedom za prvim ovinkom'. K sreči ima Tilen dobro anteno

73, Andrej

Saj temu je CB (Citizen Band) namenjen!
Pa ne bi več o tem!

Gre za princip in tako pač je! Zakoni in priporočila niso pisana da se kršijo, ampak, da se ohrani vsaj kolikor toliko reda v radijskem spektru!

Že tako ga ni kaj veliko in mislim, da bi morali radioamaterji pomagati ta red obdržati ne pa, da dajamo, oz. dajete potuho kršilcem! :evil:

Na žalost pa moralne norme nekaterih ne dosegajo niti "soseda za ovinkom"!

Ni vse v tem kaj nekdo želi delati, ampak ali to lahko počne!

Zato pa radioamaterji poznamo izpite!

Da legaliziraš svoje delovanje in uskladiš želje z dovoljenim!

:lol:

Toliko sem imel jaz, na to temo se ne bom več javljal, ker ni bila namenjena prepričevanju!

73 in lep teden!

Pibo

Napisal/-a **S56SWA** » 21 Mar 2004, 22:04

Kohlberg, L. (1984). The Psychology of Moral Development. SF:Harper and Row Pub.

odlična knjiga o moralnem razvoju, če smo že nenamerno načeli to večno kočljivo temo. Kdor je ne najde v knjižnici, pa bi jo rad preštudiral, mu lahko posodim novejšo izdajo. V spremni besedi k slovenskemu prevodu pa bom sigurno navedel primer hamov in free bandarjev.

73 es GN, Andrej

Napisal/-a **S52OW** » 21 Mar 2004, 22:11

Nisi razumel kaj sem ti hotel povedati!
Ti na 27MHz (11m!) lahko delaš samo s 4 (štirimi) W, da o modulacijah ne govorimo....
Taka je pač zakonodaja!

Sem te razumel Pibo, pa se mi res ne ljubi komentirat že stokrat komentiranega na tem forumu...Link: http://lea.hamradio.si/forum/viewtopic.php?t=808
Lahko te samo pomirim, da dx-am na 11m in v tem ZELO uživam. predlagam, da energijo raje usmeriš v kaj pozitivnega...

Pa se vrnimo nazaj na temo qro-jev...

Napisal/-a **s56a** » 21 Mar 2004, 22:37

Tilen, ti lahko DX-as na 11 m z 4 W ampak vaši QRO brez filtrov mogoče spravijo v slabo voljo Pibotove kolege v SV že na 54 MHz! Rajše ostani na audio področju...

Napisal/-a **S52OW** » 22 Mar 2004, 07:39

Verjamem. Dvomim pa da ta možnost povzroča skrb?!
Se pravi audio področje je qrp-bearfood hi hi....
Moj mali qro bolj sameva, ker je lastniku bolj zanimivo delat brez, kjub temu da vsaj sosedov ne moti, če že sv?!
btw: lep sklop anten krasi tvojo streho....kolega lovec na antene-slikal in poslal. Prijazni sosedje...

Napisal/-a **S58F** » 22 Mar 2004, 08:47

Moj mali qro bolj sameva, ker je lastniku bolj zanimivo delat brez, kjub temu da vsaj sosedov ne moti, če že sv?! ...

Glede..(QRO-ji) sam sem imel pred leti (10 let nazaj) Zetagi QRO 24-30 mHz 3XEL519 toda tega QRO-ja ne bi hotel imeti sedaj niti zastojn :lol:

...bogi sosedje :wink:

...sedaj uporabljam raje Ameritron 1X 3-500ZG (160-10M) ki je vse kaj drugega kot 3XEL519...hahah...nobenih "špricanj" ter moten.

Tilen uspešno delo...ter obilo DX-ov na 11m!!!

73 de S57LWE

Napisal/-a **S57XX** » 22 Mar 2004, 15:24

S57LWE-ERIK napisal/-a:Glede..(QRO-ji) sam sem imel pred leti (10 let nazaj) Zetagi QRO 24-30 mHz 3XEL519 toda tega QRO-ja ne bi hotel imeti sedaj niti zastojn ...bogi sosedje ...sedaj uporabljam raje Ameritron 1X 3-500ZG (160-10M) ki je vse kaj drugega kot 3XEL519...hahah...nobenih "špricanj" ter moten.

Tilen uspešno delo...ter obilo DX-ov na 11m!!!

73 de S57LWE

Erik, 1x3-500ZG imaš verjetno le za gretje sobe, a ne? :evil:

Jure

Napisal/-a **S52X** » 22 Mar 2004, 17:44

Za gretje sobe ponavadi rabimo 8877

73 de Tadej S57NDT

S57XX napisal/-a:
S57LWE-ERIK napisal/-a:Glede..(QRO-ji) sam sem imel pred leti (10 let nazaj) Zetagi QRO 24-30 mHz 3XEL519 toda tega QRO-ja ne bi hotel imeti sedaj niti zastojn ...bogi sosedje ...sedaj uporabljam raje Ameritron 1X 3-500ZG (160-10M) ki je vse kaj drugega kot 3XEL519...hahah...nobenih "špricanj" ter moten.

Tilen uspešno delo...ter obilo DX-ov na 11m!!!

73 de S57LWE

Erik, 1x3-500ZG imaš verjetno le za gretje sobe, a ne?

Jure

Napisal/-a **s56a** » 22 Mar 2004, 21:20

SW01> lep sklop anten krasi tvojo streho....kolega lovec na antene-slikal in poslal. Prijazni sosedje...

2L 40 m Yagi je nekoliko iskrivljena po zadnjem snegu. Sosedje so mi poslali pismo preko odvetnika po petletnem poskusu odstranitve mojih anten!

GOričana NDT/LWE sta na cesti bolj previdna kot v luftu :-)

Napisal/-a **S52OW** » 22 Mar 2004, 22:42

Auch...
Morda se bom potem jaz raje zadovoljil s kakšno 10-15-20m yagico in
Quad "šparal" za vikend, ki ga še nimam.........

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