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OdgovorNapisal/-a s55m » 08 Jul 2006, 21:00

Baje sta naša dva PW5O. Lahko, da se motim :)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 09 Jul 2006, 23:15

http://www.hagasoft.com/1024TeamPos.aspx ima prijavljene rezultate.

VE, W WWYC in SCG prva tri mesta, 9A sesti, S50A/S59AA #26 od 46 tekmovalcev. Potrditev uspeha iz leta 2002 v OH.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s50xx » 11 Jul 2006, 11:22

1 PT5M (VE3EJ/VE7ZO) 2369 230 2.439.380 (2.2%)
2 PW5C (N6MJ/N2NL) 2200 241 2.317.456 (2.1%)
3 PT5Y (K1DG/N2NT) 2124 230 2.098.060(3.1%)
4 PW5X (UT4UZ/UT5UGR) 2304 204 2.024.496 (2.9%)
5 PT5D (IK2QEI/IK2JUB) 2024 232 1.987.080 (2.4%)
6 PT5P (DL6FBL/DL2CC) 1875 240 1.978.320 (1.8%)
7 PT5N (9A8A/9A5K) 2017 223 1.962.177 (3.4%)
8 PW5Q (N0AX/KL9A) 2020 222 1.958.928 (2.0%)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 11 Jul 2006, 12:08

Kje so ostalih 38? CG naj bi bili #11. Njihov UBN?

PW5Q edinega imam narejenega na 3 obsega CW.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 11 Jul 2006, 14:48

2006 WRTC Final Results QSO Totals Multiplier Totals
Place WRTC Call Operators 80C 80P 40C 40P 20C 20P 15C 15P 10C 10P Total 80M 40M 20M 15M 10M TotM QSOP Score Error%
1 PT5M VE3EJ - VE7ZO 65 0 642 99 337 176 541 421 45 43 2369 11/9 33/33 30/30 27/29 12/16 230 10606 2439380 2.2
2 PW5C N6MJ - N2NL 88 1 517 58 496 101 539 265 124 11 2200 15/15 29/30 32/36 22/32 11/19 241 9616 2317456 2.1
3 PT5Y K1DG - N2NT 110 0 500 52 384 171 433 297 166 11 2124 11/10 28/29 29/30 27/33 14/19 230 9122 2098060 3.1
4 PW5X UT4UZ - UT5UGR 74 1 669 51 332 154 537 305 165 16 2304 9/3 33/37 31/16 24/26 14/11 204 9924 2024496 2.9
5 PT5D IK2QEI - IK2JUB 138 1 461 54 273 171 573 177 128 48 2024 14/7 30/31 27/35 25/31 15/17 232 8565 1987080 2.4
6 PT5P DL6FBL - DL2CC 77 7 488 31 401 138 292 302 121 18 1875 12/8 28/35 29/36 25/31 15/21 240 8243 1978320 1.8
7 PT5N 9A8A - 9A5K 58 0 391 82 280 264 321 449 170 2 2017 10/12 29/27 32/31 25/28 13/16 223 8799 1962177 3.4
8 PW5Q N0AX - KL9A 33 0 615 26 385 100 556 158 147 0 2020 7/5 34/33 27/31 26/28 15/16 222 8824 1958928 2.0
9 PT5R RW3QC - RW3GU 63 0 482 34 196 127 529 269 130 10 1840 11/6 30/36 28/34 25/30 18/20 238 8173 1945174 3.1
10 PT5Q W2SC - K5ZD 119 13 515 47 223 135 402 205 131 32 1822 16/21 33/33 28/25 22/33 17/20 248 7840 1944320 1.6
11 PT5L YT6A - YT6T 153 0 662 22 171 250 468 55 209 37 2027 14/13 30/29 28/31 21/26 13/18 223 8689 1937647 4.8
12 PT5K KH6ND - N6AA 44 8 532 82 393 224 296 326 82 25 2012 11/6 29/28 33/31 24/27 13/10 212 8999 1907788 2.0
13 PT5W LY2TA - LY2CY 102 5 512 67 294 259 316 180 159 28 1922 16/11 34/31 30/30 23/26 12/18 231 8103 1871793 3.1
14 PW5W RA3AUU - RV1AW 71 8 501 42 335 167 550 174 14 24 1886 11/7 31/37 31/37 24/31 9/10 228 8094 1845432 1.8
15 PT5B OH2UA - OH4JFN 78 3 502 55 241 169 425 297 97 56 1923 14/9 29/27 28/32 23/25 16/12 215 8393 1804495 2.1
16 PW5B SP7GIQ - SP2FAX 77 0 505 21 169 136 654 350 127 25 2064 12/12 26/26 27/20 25/28 13/6 195 9075 1769625 3.6
17 PT5I YL2KL - YL1ZF 74 1 514 4 394 10 464 210 123 1 1795 14/10 30/35 26/30 26/30 13/14 228 7664 1747392 3.1
18 PW5U XE1KK - XE1NTT 54 4 457 129 205 268 430 328 83 37 1995 10/2 27/29 33/28 24/21 14/12 200 8491 1698200 1.9
19 PT5X PY2NY - PY2EMC 46 1 598 109 264 103 316 351 114 44 1946 11/8 29/29 26/23 21/21 15/12 195 8635 1683825 3.9
20 PW5K ES5TV - ES2RR 113 21 342 67 170 132 292 259 254 19 1669 13/18 30/32 28/32 22/32 16/14 237 7004 1659948 1.5
21 PT5E K1LZ - LZ2HM 69 12 434 106 202 154 444 154 116 10 1701 12/14 30/30 27/26 23/26 14/6 208 7233 1504464 4.4
22 PW5Y K4BAI - KU8E 39 0 562 60 375 57 475 168 88 21 1845 5/2 29/33 25/27 21/28 12/10 192 7773 1492416 2.3
23 PT5U K5TR - KM3T 50 1 404 87 256 189 338 323 102 43 1793 11/7 27/28 29/18 22/26 13/16 197 7563 1489911 4.0
24 PW5V RW4WR - UA9CDV 12 0 570 60 234 128 492 272 15 10 1793 3/1 30/33 30/23 22/28 8/8 186 7838 1457868 2.9
25 PW5Z YO9GZU - YO3JR 18 13 299 115 171 194 606 217 51 0 1684 8/7 24/27 29/23 26/32 9/10 195 7392 1441440 2.4
26 PW5I ZS4TX - N2IC 75 5 452 41 269 168 236 237 120 8 1611 12/10 28/29 30/32 21/24 13/13 212 6754 1431848 1.3
27 PW5O S50A - S59AA 52 0 466 35 207 99 408 264 69 19 1619 13/7 25/38 24/24 24/27 11/13 206 6820 1404920 2.7
28 PW5G IZ3EYZ - 9A1UN 23 6 516 60 307 104 429 177 67 11 1700 5/4 27/28 28/28 22/23 11/12 188 7249 1362812 3.2
29 PW5L LZ4AX - LZ3FN 62 1 441 32 131 123 333 290 116 54 1583 10/10 29/29 25/28 24/28 14/16 213 6383 1359579 2.1
30 PW5D K1ZM - K1KI 58 4 479 36 49 169 233 361 57 12 1458 10/5 33/34 26/36 22/33 11/17 227 5947 1349969 1.8
31 PT5J N6BV - AG9A 106 0 397 51 283 130 448 172 145 4 1736 12/4 27/20 23/21 21/27 12/14 181 7369 1333789 4.2
32 PW5F F6BEE - W2GD 90 3 468 20 207 123 419 190 60 13 1593 9/5 27/22 25/32 24/28 11/13 196 6676 1308496 3.2
33 PT5V 9A6XX - DJ1YFK 111 0 451 8 300 135 441 148 72 4 1670 10/8 22/29 23/30 22/25 11/4 184 7042 1295728 2.8
34 PT5G N9RV - K3LR 111 0 520 21 283 131 313 131 26 2 1538 13/6 30/28 29/26 21/28 3/1 185 6552 1212120 3.0
35 PW5A LU1FAM - LU5DX 20 0 457 80 271 149 427 205 60 9 1678 3/0 28/27 24/20 23/20 10/9 164 7125 1168500 3.8
36 PW5M PY2NDX - UU4JMG 86 2 532 40 193 106 286 91 69 2 1407 14/18 30/29 24/21 18/23 11/9 197 5826 1147722 3.4
37 PT5C OH1JT - OH2IW 106 3 431 28 188 67 347 158 62 8 1398 10/8 28/29 27/26 24/28 12/8 200 5683 1136600 2.1
38 PT5A 5B4WN - 5B4AFM 56 2 418 32 222 76 310 224 84 10 1434 8/2 25/29 27/23 21/27 13/14 189 5971 1128519 4.1
39 PW5P OZ1AA - SM0W 69 0 447 84 241 115 276 240 33 8 1513 9/7 27/27 26/21 20/23 6/4 170 6464 1098880 4.7
40 PT5O HP1WW - N5ZO 89 0 432 28 241 61 485 10 89 0 1435 8/6 26/30 22/27 21/17 12/8 177 6188 1095276 3.9
41 PT5T PY2YU - PY1NX 13 2 429 51 266 43 301 187 75 11 1378 6/1 27/28 24/23 24/27 12/12 184 5735 1055240 3.5
42 PT5F RA3CO - RW3FO 140 1 264 60 309 124 262 130 69 6 1365 13/8 24/31 28/23 19/24 8/8 186 5165 960690 3.1
43 PW5T UA9AM - RZ3AA 58 0 457 37 280 109 373 79 8 0 1401 7/2 30/32 24/31 22/15 1/1 165 5689 938685 3.5
44 PW5J P43E - WA1S 43 0 345 79 316 111 166 166 56 18 1300 6/1 21/27 25/21 19/22 12/10 164 5358 878712 3.2
45 PW5N JK2VOC - JA2BNN 2 0 458 55 163 127 216 353 51 3 1428 1/0 25/16 27/9 21/20 8/6 133 6333 842289 3.1
46 PW5E BA4RF - BA7NQ 49 0 319 19 262 24 295 25 20 5 1018 9/3 21/19 24/17 15/8 6/4 126 4244 534744 7.4
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S50U » 14 Jul 2006, 23:24

s56a napisal/-a:2006 WRTC Final Results


Vsak si lahko ustvari svoje mnenje .... :o

Dear WRTC 2006 Friends:

This report is also available on our page for download as Release 059/06

This memorandum is to record an anomaly discovered by the Judging and
Log-Checking Committees in the course of adjudication of the WRTC 2006
competition and the action taken as a result, and to offer a
recommendation for future WRTCs.

Immediately after the end of the competition at 1200 UTC on 9 July,
electronic logs began arriving from participants in the IARU HF World
Championship from all over the world for inclusion in the master
database. Thanks to the extraordinary cooperation of the international
contesting community, in a matter of hours we received more than 1,000
logs for use in adjudication of the 46 WRTC logs.

When initial trial discrepancy reports for the 46 WRTC stations were
run, four logs were found to have unusually high numbers of "unique"
QSOs. (A "unique" QSO is one with a station that appears in few other
logs - it is not literally unique and the appropriate threshold for
labeling a QSO as "unique" may vary from one contest to another. In the
case of WRTC 2006 there were, as noted above, more than 1,000 logs used
to determine "uniques" - that is, we did not limit our comparison only
to other WRTC logs.)

In three of the four cases the reason for the high number of "uniques"
was clearly that the nationality of the WRTC station had been identified
and communicated within the home country of the team. The three logs in
this category were PW5B (SP7GIQ and SP2FAX), PT5P (DL6FBL and DL2CC),
and PT5N (9A8A and 9A5K). In some cases, multiple QSOs clearly had been
made by the same station under different call signs. This is contrary to
the spirit of WRTC, which is to provide a level playing field for all.
QSOs that are available to one team but not to any of the others tilt
the playing field. The purpose of WRTC is to determine the best
operators, not who has the most friends back home. At the same time, it
must be said that the WRTC competitors do not do anything wrong unless
they do something that is intended to identify themselves. They are not
expected to disguise their voices or their accents. So, in past WRTCs
these "national uniques" have not been deleted from competitors' logs.

The fourth case, PT5L (YT6A and YT6T), was quite different. In this case
there were hundreds of "uniques" with call signs from many countries,
early all of them in Europe, beginning about two hours into the event.
Not only that, but many of these "uniques" showed up on several bands,
in some cases on both CW and SSB. Only rarely did these "uniques" show
up in any other logs. The referee, G3XTT, confirmed that he had heard
nothing suspicious or unusual. Most of the call signs were not familiar
to the judges as appearing in CW contests, but this was apparent only
when the "uniques" were identified as such and this was not especially
noticeable when they were scattered among valid QSOs.

The audio from this station had been recorded, so it was possible to
confirm that the QSOs had in fact taken place. It appeared to the
judges, from listening to the recording while examining annotated log
extracts identifying the "uniques," that there was a small number of
stations, probably more than one, feeding "phantom QSOs" to PT5L. Again,
however, this was apparent only in retrospect.

The motive for feeding these "phantom QSOs" was and is unknown. PT5L had
only operated CW up to the time the "uniques" began to appear; we have
no evidence that the identity of the operators had been communicated to
anyone prior to that time, either by the operators themselves or by
anyone else.
Identifying "uniques" is a standard part of the adjudication of any
contest. Detecting QSOs added to a log "from the Callbook" was one of
the very first objectives when computer analysis was first performed on
contest logs. Anyone familiar with UBN or LCR reports - in other words,
any active contester - would realize that adding such QSOs to the PT5L
log was bound to come to the attention of the judges. Therefore, in the
absence of any evidence to the contrary, the judges could not conclude
that the operators of PT5L were implicated in any way. They had to know
that such manipulation would be detected and that there could be no
acceptable explanation for so many people choosing, independently of one
another, to work only PT5L from among more than 1,000 stations active on
the bands during the contest.

It seems much more likely that the "phantom QSOs" were intended to be
sabotage, either of the PT5L operators specifically (although this would
have required knowing who they were) or of a WRTC station selected at
random. Such behavior, by amateur operators outside the WRTC event
itself, is both reprehensible and illegal and deserves to be thoroughly
investigated. However, doing so within the time frame of the WRTC event
was impossible.

Thus, the problem facing the judges was how to deal appropriately with
the situation within the context of WRTC itself. It was decided to
reduce the threshold for labeling a QSO as "unique" to a relatively low
number of logs and to delete from all 46 logs, without penalty, all
"unique" QSOs. Doing so resulted in the deletion of, at one extreme,
just 3 QSOs from a log containing more than 1,900 QSOs to, at the other
extreme, the deletion of 240 QSOs from the PT5L log of more than 2,300
QSOs. Most logs lost about 15 QSOs. No doubt a few of these were valid
QSOs (others are busted calls where there is insufficient evidence to
label them as busted). However, deleting them is very unlikely to change
the relative positions of any teams with "normal" logs and definitely
did not affect the top three positions, which is the principal concern
of the judges, other than to move PT5L out of 3rd place. PT5L moved from
3rd to 11th place, some of this movement the consequence of error rate.
(If the intent of the "phantoms" was to hurt the PT5L entry they
certainly succeeded; the operators spent more than two hours working
stations for which they received no credit.)

The impact was much greater on the three logs with significant numbers
of "national uniques" (which were also a very minor factor in the PT5L
log - among the 240 "uniques" are just 9 "national uniques" that showed
up very late in the contest after the operators were identified on the
BalkanDX Yahoo forum at 1024 UTC). PW5B lost 125 "uniques" and moved
down five positions, from 11th to 16th, some of this movement the
consequence of error rate. PT5P lost 76 "unique" QSOs but actually moved
up one position in the final results because their error rate was lower
than average. PT5N lost 67 "uniques" and moved down one position.

While it is unfortunate that the operators of these four stations all
spent time making QSOs for which they received no credit, the judges and
log-checkers firmly believe that the appropriate remedy was applied to
correct an unanticipated situation. Disqualification would have been
inappropriate in that there is no proof - indeed, there is no evidence
at all - that any of the operators were at fault. On the other hand,
allowing "phantom QSOs," once detected as such, to be credited also
would be inappropriate and would make the whole WRTC event pointless.
The same standard was applied to all 46 logs.

The judges and log-checkers recommend that in future WRTCs, all
"uniques" should be removed from logs without penalty and that this
policy should be announced in advance. All stations operating in the
IARU HF World Championship should be encouraged to work all WRTC
stations, without favoritism and without using more than one call sign
from any station (unless family members share a station).

We also recommend that "unique" not be precisely defined in advance. The
judges must be allowed discretion to determine the appropriate threshold
for "uniques" for a given event, as this will depend upon the number of
logs available for crosschecking and other factors.

While we regret that this attempt to manipulate the WRTC results
occurred - for whatever reason the perpetrators may have had - we are
pleased to have detected it and to have been able to take appropriate
corrective action.

The judges would especially like to thank Larry "Tree" Tyree, N6TR, for
his analysis and Phil Goetz, N6ZZ for his invaluable contribution in
uploading the WRTC logs and maintaining the communication link between
the judges in Florianopolis and Tree at his home in Oregon. Trey
Garlough, N5KO, also contributed significantly to the log-checking
process from his home in California, as did Larry Hammel, K5OT, on-site.

Respectfully submitted,

Judges: Log-Checking Committee:
David Sumner, K1ZZ Larry "Tree" Tyree, N6TR
Roger Western, G3SXW Phil Goetz, N6ZZ

WRTC2006 Steering Committee
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s58dx » 15 Jul 2006, 07:00

Danilo živ :) ,

mnenje :evil: , dokler je tekmovanja in tekmovalcev se bo goljufalo.
Včasih manj včasih bolj sofisticirano. :oops:
Tebe in Tadeja se spominjam s WRTC 2000 kjer smo vas gostili. Vsi smo bili prepričani vključno z sodnikom da ste "pometli" z konkurenco, pol pa :evil: :evil:

Krešu 9A5K sem občudoval kako je v enem CQWW na 10 m imel več multi's na 10 m kot single op v primerjavi z CN8WW na 10 m. Bil sem priča kako je CN8WW na 40 m en večer zapsioval v dnevnik vsaj 150 Nemcev katere je generirala ena postaja iz nemčije. Pol pa ta sodobna sredstva kot so internet remote receiver itn... Da sklenem ... poskusil bom izračunat kolk odojkov in janjcev bi se dalo zavrtet namesto investicij v stolpe antene itn...

Nermin 8)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S50U » 15 Jul 2006, 10:11

s58dx napisal/-a:Tebe in Tadeja se spominjam s WRTC 2000 kjer smo vas gostili.


Hole

Še sedaj se rad spominjam Trstelja, manj uvrstitve. :wink:
Nama so brisali znak enega od domačinov, teško se mu je bilo skriti z močnim signalom v lokalu.

Na hitro so DSQ S58A & S55OO še pred tekmo, mogoče bi ista načelnost pomagala tudi v teh primerih in na naslednjem wrtc ne bi bilo "plasiranih" unique. Problem ostaja samo še v primeru, če te nekdo hoče diskvalificirati z temi phantom unique znaki. Ampak saj se vse snema ?!

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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 15 Jul 2006, 10:41

NQ4I 21012.9 PT5V15 n2nt op 1201 08 Jul 2006
WX3B 21218.0 PT5E Krassy, K1LZ 1452 08 Jul 2006
DJ9MH 14288.9 PT5P german team 2107 08 Jul 2006
DJ5MW 14289.0 PT5P go Ben! 2116 08 Jul 2006
S54G 21335.0 PW5O Tince? 1841 08 Jul 2006

Zgornji DX Cluster spotovi so identificirali nacionalne time. Prvi je napacno zadel 9A6XX/DJ1YFK.

S55M je pomagal identifikaciji S5 in 9A timov na HRS webu. 9A8A/9A5K tim na #7 mestu je zbral kar 55 domacih postaj vkljucno z UKV-jasi.

Nemci in Poljaki so imeli veliko pomoci v najboljsi tradiciji njihovih HQ postaj s stotinjak “zemljaka” v logu.

Najslabsi vtis je pustila ekipa YT6A/YT6T. Zaradi “napake” z EU prestevanjem pik so bili v tekocih rezultatih med 14 in 25 mestom in potem nenadoma skocili na #3. V logu so imeli okrog 240 postaj, ki jih niso delali drugi WRTC udelezenci. Teh postaj ni bilo niti v 1.000 e-logov, ki so prisli na ARRL u prvih 6 urah. Samo 16 unikatnih YU so imeli. Ni jasno in tezko dokazljivo, ali je nekdo namenoma motil YT6A ali je podajanje QSO bilo ze vnaprej dogovorjeno?

Sodniska komisija je na osnovi teh 4 primerov odlocila da umakne vse unikatne zvocno zapisane zveze pri vseh 46 tekmovalnih ekipah.

9A so padli za eno mesto, YT6A je koncal na #11, vseeno na najboljsem YU WRTC plasmaju! S50A/S59AA ocitno nismo dovolj pomagali :-)

Tokratno pregledovanje dnevnikov s pomocjo N6TR je bilo odlicno. Napaka z DL6FBL na Bledu bi bila takoj odpravljena!

LP MMM S56A, N1YU, nesojeni sodnik na WRTC

To je moj prispevek v srbo-slovenscini na S5ham. Veliko vec angleskih sem poslal na WRTC reflektor. V srpscini na Sky-cc.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S51U » 15 Jul 2006, 11:49

Vsaka čast fantom, ki delajo tekmovanja pošteno in s srcem !
Saj ni važno doseženo mesto, važno da se imaš dobro in da uživaš v svojem hobiju. :oops:
Čestitke vsem udeležencem WRTC 2006 - od prvega do 46. !
Pri meni so vsi v logu, samo ne vem, če sem tudi jaz pri njih :evil:
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S50U » 15 Jul 2006, 12:19

s56a napisal/-a:Najslabsi vtis je pustila ekipa YT6A/YT6T. Veliko vec angleskih sem poslal na WRTC reflektor. V srpscini na Sky-cc.


Opiši nam še sijajen vmesnik avtorja Siniše, YT1NT ki sta ga uporabljala Rale in Djurica izdelan prav za ta namen ? Še Amerikanci se niso mogli načuditi SČG tehniki :

Jeff, K1ZM:
The radio B operator merely had to step on his footswitch and Radio A AUTOMATICALLY went to the desired frequency on the second VFO, it even went to the OTHER MODE if the desired mult or station was on a different mode being used by the RUN OP - and an optical sensor checked the AMP to see if it was on the SAME BAND - or on a different band that the radio B operator wanted to work. If on the same band, the amp remained engaged, if the target station was on a DIFFERENT BAND, the amp was sent to standby mode - and the B operator called the target station BAREFOOT for three calls - after which a decision would be made to bring the amp on-line to the new band.

I listened to an hour of the log file and almost every radio B qso that I heard was made barefoot - rarely was the amp required to be switched.

As soon as the RADIO B qso was made, everything was AUTOMATICALLY switched back to the original radio A settings - and the whole process took about 1 second to make the call, another second to make the Q (in terms of TRANSMIT time where the radio B op was actually interrupting the A ops rate) - and then the B operator would go on tuning for the next one.

Out of each page of QSO's - black ones were from the RUN op, blue qso's were from the B operator and each page I saw had from 10-12 qso's contributed by the second op. Listening to this all happen IN STEREO on the recorded file, it was a wonder to observe as, at times, two qso's were ALMOST occurring at the same time - but the thing was totally interlocked - as the B op had total priority and took control as soon as the A op's vox tripped out.

If you think this is pretty slick - then picture this. There's more! On 40M CW, team YT6A had at least 25 notch filters, each about 5 khz wide, which were tracked in synch with the VFO on radio A when on 40CW - such that the correct notch filter was switched in automatically by means of relays as the radio A VFO was tuned up and down the band.

Well - there was even more I saw - but I think it can safely be said that the technical design and automation present in the YT6A design was the slickest I ever saw - and will probably send all the rest of us scrambling in preparation for the NEXT WRTC.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 15 Jul 2006, 12:49

Zacelo je s preprostim YT1NT CMOS vezjem za interlock dva radija pri dostopu do skupnega linearnega ojacevalca. Objavljeno na BalkanDX s S56A popravki :P

Potem so naredili RX BPF, ki so izdrzali 1 kW TX moci kar je omogocalo nemoteno stalno poslusanje na radio B. Kristalni filteri za 7 MHz so ze prej poceni naroceni v IMP Beograd. Podobni se dobijo v DL za 125 Euro.

Vse to je krmilil PIC. YT1NT dela veliko na industrijskih krmilnikih in ima ogromno merilne opreme. Pa sse "grdo" navado, da vse prej izracuna. Nekaj casa je bil na zacasnem delu kot VE3EA pri RIM. Zdaj ziba hcero. YT6T tudi! YT6A je lastnik podjetja s TV oddajniki. Trenutno okupiran z Montenegro DX-ped. Verjetno ga ponovno obiscem za CQ WW RTTY.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S50U » 15 Jul 2006, 20:07

s58dx napisal/-a:mnenje :evil: , dokler je tekmovanja in tekmovalcev se bo goljufalo. Včasih manj včasih bolj sofisticirano. :oops:


Mario tnx YT1NT info.

Nisem hotel odpirati nove teme glede poštenosti v tekmovanjih čeprav bi bil forum hitro poln. :wink: Majhne nacije smo po obstoječih pravilih v primeru IARU HQ bolj udarjene kot velike. Koliko S5 QSOs se pojavlja v letošnjem S50HQ logu ?? :roll:

Dear Fellow Contesters,
I would say the time to change rules for HQ stations in IARU contest has come. It is crystal clear ,if one reads the link below( of course, if he can understand Russian :-) ) http://www.qrz.ru/webnews/3441.htm

In IARU 2005 -
It is NOT normal DA0HQ to have over 9000 DL QSOs out of total of 19 000.
It is NOT normal to have SN0HQ been called by 1200 different SP callsigns
who used JUST ONE STATION to make these QSOs. 528 of these 1200 SP operators worked SN0HQ on all 6 bands form JUST ONE STATION.
SN0HQ had 8 000 QSO's with SP stations ,too ! (info is translated from the link in Russain given above )
As a normal person I would NOT call this a fair competition although accroding to currently printed rules of IARU contest this is NOT a formal rules violation. If we have the same approach in LZ we would ask 1/3 of all 3000 LZ hams to go to our central radio club station and to stand on a queue to work LZ7HQ station on 6 bands :-). I would kindly suggest to organizing committee of IARU contest to take action and stop this nonsense. At this time I can not suggest myself a solution of this problem,but such actions by some HQ stations definetly makes efforts of other HQ stations useless.

73, Wally LZ2CJ one of LZ7HQ operators in IARU 2006
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OdgovorNapisal/-a s56a » 15 Jul 2006, 22:21

S50U napisal/-a:Nisem hotel odpirati nove teme glede poštenosti v tekmovanjih čeprav bi bil forum hitro poln. :wink: Majhne nacije smo po obstoječih pravilih v primeru IARU HQ bolj udarjene kot velike. Koliko S5 QSOs se pojavlja v letošnjem S50HQ logu ?? :roll:


Ali si zasledil kaksno resno promocijo S50HQ? Internet, TV, CQ ZRS?

Pravkar opazujem zalostna dogajanja v 9A Tesla 150 12-urnem tekmovanju. Glavne HRS postaje 9A150NT iz Smiljana ni. Ujel sem 3 x 9A in S59ZZ. Za zabavo sem pobral kopico DR/DQ2006 na 80 m CW. Jutri bom malo "dirkal" na 50 in 144 MHz.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a S57XX » 17 Jul 2006, 18:52

S50U napisal/-a: ... Nisem hotel odpirati nove teme glede poštenosti v tekmovanjih čeprav bi bil forum hitro poln. :wink: ...


Nekako nisem hotel verjeti, da se dejansko dogaja to, kar se. No, tokrat pa sem kar nekaj časa poslušal eno od "ta velkih" HQ postaj, kako mu en in isti glas šiba raznorazne nacionalne znake - po spisku. Po kakih 15 QSO-tih sem se naveličal, in odpujsal dalje... :evil: Škoda, ko nimam zadeve posnete.
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